{"id":99272,"date":"2023-03-05T01:17:56","date_gmt":"2023-03-05T06:17:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/?p=99272"},"modified":"2023-03-05T01:20:42","modified_gmt":"2023-03-05T06:20:42","slug":"art-of-anarchy-scam-band-filed-1-2-million-lawsuit-against-scott-stapp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/?p=99272","title":{"rendered":"ART OF ANARCHY &#8211; &#8216;Scam Band&#8217; Filed $1.2 Million Lawsuit Against Scott Stapp"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">The legacy left behind of the short-lived supergroup\u00a0<strong>ART OF ANARCHY<\/strong>\u00a0remains an ugly one. That project was originally formed as a vehicle for the likes of ex-<strong>Guns N\u2019 Roses<\/strong>\u00a0guitarist\u00a0<strong>Ron \u201cBumblefoot\u201d Thal<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Disturbed<\/strong>\u00a0bassist\u00a0<strong>John Moyer<\/strong>\u00a0and the brothers\u00a0<strong>Jon<\/strong>\u00a0(guitars) and\u00a0<strong>Vince Votta<\/strong>\u00a0(drums).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Late <strong>Stone Temple Pilots<\/strong>\u00a0vocalist\u00a0<strong>Scott Weiland<\/strong>\u00a0was later hired on to complete the band\u2019s lineup and debut album, having allegedly signed a contract to also partake in a subsequent promotional cycle.\u00a0<strong>Weiland<\/strong>\u00a0would later unceremoniously exit the band, right around the release of that album. He would go on to\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theprp.com\/2015\/04\/22\/news\/scott-weiland-says-art-of-anarchy-was-a-scam-from-the-beginning\/\">publicly call the band a \u2018scam\u2019<\/a>, with his exit leading to a pair of dueling lawsuits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">The&nbsp;<strong>Votta<\/strong>&nbsp;brothers filed a $20 million lawsuit against&nbsp;<strong>Weiland<\/strong>&nbsp;for breaching his apparent contract.&nbsp;<strong>Votta<\/strong>&nbsp;argued that&nbsp;<strong>Weiland<\/strong>&nbsp;was paid $230,000 upfront to join the band, contribute to the record and engage in a proper promotional cycle for it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Weiland<\/strong>&nbsp;would go on to countersue the group, claiming they were using his name and image to promote the outfit without his expressed consent.&nbsp;<strong>Weiland<\/strong>\u2018s December 03rd, 2015 death would ultimately see both lawsuits dropped.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">The next year,&nbsp;<strong>Art Of Anarchy<\/strong>&nbsp;tried their luck again, this time enlisting&nbsp;<strong>Scott Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<strong>Creed<\/strong>&nbsp;fame as their new singer. However, while&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;did release an album with the band and took to the stage with them for roughly six shows before exiting, his short tenure resulted in the&nbsp;<strong>Votta<\/strong>&nbsp;brothers&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theprp.com\/2018\/02\/19\/news\/art-anarchy-members-file-1-2-million-lawsuit-frontman-scott-stapp\/\">filing a $1.2 million lawsuit against him<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"John Moyer P1\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/asKAfepQOWo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">The brothers alleged that&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;had breached his contract with the group in failing to live up to taking part in significant touring, photo shoots, video shoots and the like to promote their 2017 album \u201c<strong>The Madness<\/strong>\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">It was alleged by the brothers at the time that&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;had instead prioritized his own solo career and neglected to pay back a $200,000 loan\/advance they had given him to join the band and partake in the album cycle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Stapp<\/strong>\u2018s apparent erratic behavior with the outfit forced them to scrap their larger touring plans and also saw them lose their record contract. As it turns out, that suit is still ongoing all these years later.\u00a0<strong>John Moyer<\/strong>\u00a0was recently asked to discuss it on the\u00a0<strong>Talk Louder Podcast<\/strong>\u00a0(see below), and stated of the situation:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">\u201c\u2026And then, for some reason, we decided to [make an album again] with another&nbsp;<strong>Scott<\/strong>. We did it with&nbsp;<strong>Scott Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<strong>Creed<\/strong>. On this record, I did a lot more writing. The record\u2019s called&nbsp;<strong>The Madness<\/strong>. That was a tough record to make. A lot of sitting in the jam room with&nbsp;<strong>Scott Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<strong>Bumble<\/strong>&nbsp;and the whole band and just trying to get everybody on the same page.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I was in a super creative zone at that point, so I brought in a ton of songs: I probably wrote half that record. It was good. It was difficult working with&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;because\u2026 you just don\u2019t know which&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;you\u2019re gonna get. Like, some days, you\u2019re gonna get creative&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>, and some days, you\u2019re gonna get the&nbsp;<strong>Stapp<\/strong>&nbsp;who just wants to sit in the corner and say everything sucks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">He was kind of moody and he was only into it so much. It was very frustrating. It was like dragging an elephant uphill, sometimes. I don\u2019t mind saying this \u2019cause it turned into an entire shitshow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">He was supposed to do\u2026 We signed to a label, again. I think he had promised to do 90 shows with us. He did six and then bailed. That was all in the contract, and I can talk about this because we are in a \u2018dispute\u2019 with him legally. That\u2019s already been around, so I\u2019m not letting the cat out of a bag or saying anything that hadn\u2019t been already told in the press years ago. It\u2019s been years, but we\u2019re getting to the end of that dispute.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">It\u2019s frustrating because when you get into a band, you trust people. I want to say it\u2019s like a marriage, but it\u2019s a relationship. And when somebody\u2019s in that relationship and they\u2019re not being truthful, and they\u2019re there under false reasons, and they\u2019re already planning an exit plan\u2026; You\u2019re buying the house and they\u2019re trying to figure out a way to ditch you! It hurts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I\u2019m a trusting person. I\u2019m not gonna say I\u2019m na\u00efve but I refuse to get hardened. The music industry will break your heart. There\u2019s a reason that SIMS Foundation exists because it is not a mentally-friendly industry but I\u2019m not gonna allow that to happen to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I\u2019m not gonna allow myself to get hardened by things. So even though the thing with&nbsp;<strong>Scott Weiland<\/strong>&nbsp;didn\u2019t work out, even though&nbsp;<strong>Disturbed<\/strong>&nbsp;was on hiatus, even though I had dealt with the losses in&nbsp;<strong>Union Underground<\/strong>, a lot of heartbreak, I was still like \u2018all right&nbsp;<strong>Scott Stapp<\/strong>, let\u2019s go!\u2019, fresh and as a daisy and willing to do it even though he didn\u2019t have a great history, coming into the camp.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">He\u2019d just come off of his whole thing where he was traveling across the country in the back of a truck, homeless. He\u2019s telling us all these stories and he\u2019s just back sober, so we\u2019re his sober camp.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">We\u2019re supporting him. There is no drinking. \u2018What do you need,&nbsp;<strong>Scott Stapp<\/strong>, to make make this work? All hands on deck, we believe in you, we want you to be a part of this. You\u2019re going to agree to this? Awesome!\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">You put all that into somebody, and they turn your back on you? I don\u2019t really have a lot of remorse for that. It really hurt my feelings. I don\u2019t want to say my feelings, It hurt my soul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Because I put a lot into that record and he had no intention of touring it. And it\u2019s come out now, like so much has come out in the wash that I just can\u2019t believe the things that were said that weren\u2019t true. So, there\u2019s that story!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I\u2019m gonna get in trouble for this. Some lawyer is going to call me like \u2018 you can\u2019t bash blah, blah, blah, blah\u2019\u2026 I\u2019m just telling the truth, man! It just sucked. Promises were made. They weren\u2019t kept and I wouldn\u2019t do that to you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I wouldn\u2019t do that to you, Jason. I wouldn\u2019t do that to you, David. I wouldn\u2019t do that to anybody. How people can go through life and do that and think it\u2019s okay because they\u2019re somebody is the worst kind of Rockstar ego I can imagine.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">It was reported last year that Scott Stapp was offered to replace troubled MOTLEY CRUE vocalist Vince Neil, but he turned it down to set-up a future return to his former hit making band CREED.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"SCOTT STAPP Rumored To Be Replacing VINCE NEIL In M\u00d6TLEY CR\u00dcE\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/IUF6YPJP9T8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The legacy left behind of the short-lived supergroup\u00a0ART OF ANARCHY\u00a0remains an ugly one. That project&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":99273,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_mo_disable_npp":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-99272","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99272","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=99272"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99272\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":99277,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99272\/revisions\/99277"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/99273"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=99272"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=99272"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/themetalden.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=99272"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}